February 2022

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Jasons2k try logging out of the site and logging in again, thats odd
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jasons2k wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:25 pm
Cpv17 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:10 am
jasons2k wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:15 am

Go stand outside in it for three hours nonstop in the dark and then tell me what you think. If you still like that you need to get your head checked 😆😆😆
30-40 degree weather can be miserable if you just sit there and don’t do anything but if you’re working I’d much rather prefer it than 90+ degrees with killer dp’s.
95 is about the cutoff for me now. Fortunately we won't have to deal with that for a few months!

As an aside - does anyone else have an issue on this site where the page keeps scrolling down?? That and that darn clock setting is about to drive me nuts.
Yes I have those same issues too. Been going on a long while now.
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And here it is...sorry for the Mets but the facts are the facts...

Wed: 31 degree bust
Wed night: 19 degree bust
Thu: 24 degree bust

And the cherry on top is we had significantly less precip than forecast too.
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jasons2k wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:00 pm And here it is...sorry for the Mets but the facts are the facts...

Wed: 31 degree bust
Wed night: 19 degree bust
Thu: 24 degree bust

And the cherry on top is we had significantly less precip than forecast too.
I’m tired of looking at the models and seeing all the rain go north and east of us..time after time after time. Tennessee and Kentucky are constantly in the bullseye. We’re gonna need some dang rain around here.
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I posted a first draft of this earlier but here is the full version I just posted on S2K:

So, I have to tell y'all...
I think last night was the coldest my body has ever been. We were at my youngest's baseball game, out in it for 3 hours. I layered-up as best as I could and it was still miserable in that cold wind. I had 5 layers on top and two layers on the bottom. I'm not kidding - I went prepared. But the cold, wet wind still cut right through like a knife. The fields are open and windy. I simply could not get warm or even comfortable. By the time we got back to my wife's vehicle with heated seats, my feet and hands were completely numb. And that was a strange feeling - they felt like bricks on the extremities.

I have lived in Lubbock on the high plains, frequented the New Mexico mountains in winter…and have never felt that cold before. I remember in Lubbock one time it was so cold my tires lost pressure and deflated and I had to change tires in the snow/cold, and I had pour anti-freeze radiator fluid in my car to get it started. This topped it all (although to be fair was out in the elements for a shorter time back then). Every single one of us out there last night was so glad when it was over. We are all ready for baseball weather. Thank goodness we have a warmup in the forecast and March is the beginning of the meteorological spring!!!
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jasons2k wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:00 pm And here it is...sorry for the Mets but the facts are the facts...

Wed: 31 degree bust
Wed night: 19 degree bust
Thu: 24 degree bust

And the cherry on top is we had significantly less precip than forecast too.
The shallow cold air definitely overperformed (as expected). Today's cold rain would be been an icy mess just 2-3 weeks ago.

Waco was slippery and icy, but manageable.

Hoping for an abatement of the rain this afternoon, so I can walk the dog.
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Cpv17 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:10 pm
jasons2k wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:00 pm And here it is...sorry for the Mets but the facts are the facts...

Wed: 31 degree bust
Wed night: 19 degree bust
Thu: 24 degree bust

And the cherry on top is we had significantly less precip than forecast too.
I’m tired of looking at the models and seeing all the rain go north and east of us..time after time after time. Tennessee and Kentucky are constantly in the bullseye. We’re gonna need some dang rain around here.
Yeah, I hope the cap is weak for you in March and April (but not so weak that twisters form). Today is a wet mess up in CLL. However, I'd rather save this rain for July and August when we are parched.
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jasons2k wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:33 pm I posted a first draft of this earlier but here is the full version I just posted on S2K:

So, I have to tell y'all...
I think last night was the coldest my body has ever been. We were at my youngest's baseball game, out in it for 3 hours. I layered-up as best as I could and it was still miserable in that cold wind. I had 5 layers on top and two layers on the bottom. I'm not kidding - I went prepared. But the cold, wet wind still cut right through like a knife. The fields are open and windy. I simply could not get warm or even comfortable. By the time we got back to my wife's vehicle with heated seats, my feet and hands were completely numb. And that was a strange feeling - they felt like bricks on the extremities.

I have lived in Lubbock on the high plains, frequented the New Mexico mountains in winter…and have never felt that cold before. I remember in Lubbock one time it was so cold my tires lost pressure and deflated and I had to change tires in the snow/cold, and I had pour anti-freeze radiator fluid in my car to get it started. This topped it all (although to be fair was out in the elements for a shorter time back then). Every single one of us out there last night was so glad when it was over. We are all ready for baseball weather. Thank goodness we have a warmup in the forecast and March is the beginning of the meteorological spring!!!
Thermals!!

That reminds me. I've lived in Illinois, VA, NC, etc. before SE Texas, but the coldest I've every been was without thermals at a night football game at LSU, believe it or not.

Fog

31°F

Wind about 20-25 mph steady. It was almost like swimming in frigid water. lol

We had thermals and layers and gloves outside Chicago. Not a problem.
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This weather the past few days has been awesome and exciting for me. I’m definitely gonna miss it and already can’t wait for next winter. Hoping we get a lot of rain and storms to track between now and then and hopefully at least a couple more fronts in March or April.
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DoctorMu wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:08 pm
jasons2k wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:00 pm And here it is...sorry for the Mets but the facts are the facts...

Wed: 31 degree bust
Wed night: 19 degree bust
Thu: 24 degree bust

And the cherry on top is we had significantly less precip than forecast too.
The shallow cold air definitely overperformed (as expected). Today's cold rain would be been an icy mess just 2-3 weeks ago.

Waco was slippery and icy, but manageable.

Hoping for an abatement of the rain this afternoon, so I can walk the dog.
Today would’ve been an epic event if only it were 10 degrees colder.
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I had on thermals as my first layer. Still just couldn’t get warm.
I should have worn my snow boots instead of running shows though.

And yes if it were 10 degrees colder we’d be having one heck of an ice storm.

DoctorMU I’m glad you made it home safely and hopefully you’ll get that walk.
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jasons2k wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:24 pm I had on thermals as my first layer. Still just couldn’t get warm.
I should have worn my snow boots instead of running shows though.

And yes if it were 10 degrees colder we’d be having one heck of an ice storm.

DoctorMU I’m glad you made it home safely and hopefully you’ll get that walk.
Yep, the cold and wind will cut right through running shoes. As soon as my feet get cold, the rest of me is done and doesn't matter what I have on.
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Cpv17 wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:49 pm
DoctorMu wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:08 pm
jasons2k wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:00 pm And here it is...sorry for the Mets but the facts are the facts...

Wed: 31 degree bust
Wed night: 19 degree bust
Thu: 24 degree bust

And the cherry on top is we had significantly less precip than forecast too.
The shallow cold air definitely overperformed (as expected). Today's cold rain would be been an icy mess just 2-3 weeks ago.

Waco was slippery and icy, but manageable.

Hoping for an abatement of the rain this afternoon, so I can walk the dog.
Today would’ve been an epic event if only it were 10 degrees colder.
Yeah, the set-ups have been Oh so close this winter. We've had a couple of tastes in CLL, but just missed out on some epic La Nina Mischief.

Onto Severe Season I guess up here in the NW.
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DoctorMu wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:53 pm
Cpv17 wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:49 pm
DoctorMu wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:08 pm

The shallow cold air definitely overperformed (as expected). Today's cold rain would be been an icy mess just 2-3 weeks ago.

Waco was slippery and icy, but manageable.

Hoping for an abatement of the rain this afternoon, so I can walk the dog.
Today would’ve been an epic event if only it were 10 degrees colder.
Yeah, the set-ups have been Oh so close this winter. We've had a couple of tastes in CLL, but just missed out on some epic La Nina Mischief.

Onto Severe Season I guess up here in the NW.
It'll be interesting to see if we have a severe weather season in the spring, or if we jump straight to capping and everything to the north. It seems like in recent years, our severe weather season has been in the winter months, rather than the spring. Probably a side effect of global warming and climate change.
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jasons2k wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:59 pm
DoctorMu wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:53 pm
Cpv17 wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:49 pm

Today would’ve been an epic event if only it were 10 degrees colder.
Yeah, the set-ups have been Oh so close this winter. We've had a couple of tastes in CLL, but just missed out on some epic La Nina Mischief.

Onto Severe Season I guess up here in the NW.
It'll be interesting to see if we have a severe weather season in the spring, or if we jump straight to capping and everything to the north. It seems like in recent years, our severe weather season has been in the winter months, rather than the spring. Probably a side effect of global warming and climate change.
I believe we’re about to go into a pretty bad drought. Severe weather will probably be from Arkansas to Illinois and points east and south of that line.
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Cpv17 wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:03 am
jasons2k wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:59 pm
DoctorMu wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:53 pm

Yeah, the set-ups have been Oh so close this winter. We've had a couple of tastes in CLL, but just missed out on some epic La Nina Mischief.

Onto Severe Season I guess up here in the NW.
It'll be interesting to see if we have a severe weather season in the spring, or if we jump straight to capping and everything to the north. It seems like in recent years, our severe weather season has been in the winter months, rather than the spring. Probably a side effect of global warming and climate change.
I believe we’re about to go into a pretty bad drought. Severe weather will probably be from Arkansas to Illinois and points east and south of that line.
Agreed on that. That's what I was alluding to a week or two ago. I'm afraid we are going to quickly jump to a late Spring pattern of above normal temps with lack of rainfall and capping.

That said, based on what I see in the pattern evolution, I would not be surprised to see another last gasp of winter in a few weeks but it will quick.
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Cpv17 wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:03 am
jasons2k wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:59 pm
DoctorMu wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:53 pm

Yeah, the set-ups have been Oh so close this winter. We've had a couple of tastes in CLL, but just missed out on some epic La Nina Mischief.

Onto Severe Season I guess up here in the NW.
It'll be interesting to see if we have a severe weather season in the spring, or if we jump straight to capping and everything to the north. It seems like in recent years, our severe weather season has been in the winter months, rather than the spring. Probably a side effect of global warming and climate change.
I believe we’re about to go into a pretty bad drought. Severe weather will probably be from Arkansas to Illinois and points east and south of that line.
Over the last decade it seems like these frontal storm systems just don't cut it anymore down here.Ive noticed that the only way to break the cap consistently here and get widespread rain in the Spring is with a cutoff low.
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jasons2k wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:59 pm
DoctorMu wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:53 pm
Cpv17 wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:49 pm

Today would’ve been an epic event if only it were 10 degrees colder.
Yeah, the set-ups have been Oh so close this winter. We've had a couple of tastes in CLL, but just missed out on some epic La Nina Mischief.

Onto Severe Season I guess up here in the NW.
It'll be interesting to see if we have a severe weather season in the spring, or if we jump straight to capping and everything to the north. It seems like in recent years, our severe weather season has been in the winter months, rather than the spring. Probably a side effect of global warming and climate change.
Good question. I agree. Late Fall and Winter over the past few years have had that uptick in severe weather up here as well.
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Had a low of 34. The sun is back!! Welcome to Spring!!

From pro-met Jeff Royed, AKA the Woodlands Weather Dude:
2/28/2022 Are We Done With Freezing Temperatures?
Lately, I have been getting questions on whether we are done with freezing temperatures in Montgomery County. In this post, I will explore that possibility from a numerical weather model probabilistic perspective and then also from a statistical perspective—based on the area’s weather history or climatology.

The easy answer to this question is an emphatic “no” as a good portion of the area may see temperatures fall near or slightly below freezing by sunrise tomorrow. Well that would make this a very short post if I didn’t pursue this further. The good news is that once we get past Tuesday morning, we will see temperatures here slowly climb and by Friday morning, we should see temperatures get close to normal early March levels. Queue the pine pollen!

By Friday, we should see the southeast winds hook up with the Gulf of Mexico and that means we will see rising humidity and warmer nighttime temperatures. In other words, time to plant your warm season garden—tomatoes, beans, cucumbers etc. But are we done with freezing weather for the season? Taking a look at over 100 different model simulations from the American, European and Canadian model suites over the next 15 days, they all seem to be sniffing out another cold front by the end of next week or around the 11th or 12th of March—give or take a day. Currently, I am only seeing less than 5% of the model simulations showing temperatures near or below freezing. In fact most of the simulations show low temperatures in the upper 40s. I like those odds!

Again, these ensemble model runs only go out to March 14th and to be honest with you, the forecast skill really starts falling off rapidly after around 11-12 days into the future. So there is some uncertainty and even the current forecast for late next week can trend colder here. So what about the second half of the month of March? Or even April? Unfortunately, the science is just not yet good enough to know for sure. However, we can look back at 25 years of history at Conroe’s Montgomery County Airport (image below). Based on our past history or climate, there is around a 30% chance of seeing a freeze in Montgomery County from March 15th or later. By the time we get to April, these odds fall to 12%. Our last freeze in April was just three years ago on April 2. Worth noting, historically, all of our freezes here after around March 11th have been very marginal or “light” freezes, which means we should probably be able to get by with some freeze protection.

So in summary, based on the present forecast, along with statistical probabilities, once we get past the next couple of days, odds would suggest that the area will be done with encountering freezes. However, climate is what you expect. Weather is what you get. And as we found out over the past few days, we don’t always like what we get. -WWD
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Time to MARCH on to the new thread. Lets see what the new month has in store.
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