April 2023

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The EPS/Euro are both significantly wetter than the GEFS/GFS. Till both of these come together, not too much confidence. The GFS has consistently had the rain bomb further north.
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The ICON looks like the EURO on where it sets up the main corridor of rain fwiw.Its going to depend on where the frontal boundary stalls and the orientation of the subtropical jet on who gets the heaviest rain's.Regardless everyone locally should at the very least get a couple of inches out of this setup.Below is the difference in qpf amounts between the GFS vs EURO.Still a long ways to go before we know the finer details.
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don wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:50 am The ICON looks like the EURO on where it sets up the main corridor of rain fwiw.Its going to depend on where the frontal boundary stalls and the orientation of the subtropical jet on who gets the heaviest rain's.Regardless everyone locally should at the very least get a couple of inches out of this setup.Below is the difference in qpf amounts between the GFS vs EURO.Still a long ways to go before we know the finer details.
From what I have seen, the Euro solution is more likely because models often have a bias of not progressing fronts far enough south. We will see, but this isn't the first time I have seen models stall a front too far north.
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Honestly though even with the GFS being further north, still has widespread 2-4 inch amounts across SE texas, at least we have decent agreement that everybody could be in for some very beneficial rains
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12z Euro has widespread 2-4 inches with isolated 6-8 inches + in some spots
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captainbarbossa19 wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:55 am
don wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:50 am The ICON looks like the EURO on where it sets up the main corridor of rain fwiw.Its going to depend on where the frontal boundary stalls and the orientation of the subtropical jet on who gets the heaviest rain's.Regardless everyone locally should at the very least get a couple of inches out of this setup.Below is the difference in qpf amounts between the GFS vs EURO.Still a long ways to go before we know the finer details.
From what I have seen, the Euro solution is more likely because models often have a bias of not progressing fronts far enough south. We will see, but this isn't the first time I have seen models stall a front too far north.
The Ensembles have really bought into 2-5 inches of rain in the 7-10 day forecasts.
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19 tornado warnings in 7 different states. Nashville *could* be under the gun in the next few hours. Hopefully instability settles down before there is damage in Nashville.
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Euro 00z Run has some isolated bullseyes of 10-12 inches of rain across parts of SE texas fwiw, will be interesting to see what the mesocale runs show once they get in range next week
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Stratton20 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 2:18 am Euro 00z Run has some isolated bullseyes of 10-12 inches of rain across parts of SE texas fwiw, will be interesting to see what the mesocale runs show once they get in range next week
Yeah. Usually mesoscale models are more intense than globals so that’s definitely alarming.
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Real bad night in many areas last night.
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12z GFS has about 6-8 inches for me, wow lol
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Stratton20 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:18 pm 12z GFS has about 6-8 inches for me, wow lol
Imagine the models are pulling the April Fools joke on you
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Quite a difference between models. Euro is along the coast and offshore with the heaviest totals. GFS is 200 miles north of there above a College Station to Huntsville line. Meet the two models together and bam, you get a big event right over us.
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Heavy rain and flooding have occurred in April. 1837, 1929, 1976, 1979, 1990, 1997, 2009, and 2016 come to mind.

April 1929 had severe flooding, then happened again in May 1929. 2016 is the Tax Day Flood.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190109170 ... flood.html
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An isolate thunderstorm ongoing in Matagorda County:

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
Flash Flood Warning
National Weather Service Houston/Galveston TX
520 PM CDT Sat Apr 1 2023

The National Weather Service in League City has issued a

* Flash Flood Warning for...
Northwestern Matagorda County in southeastern Texas...

* Until 615 PM CDT.

* At 520 PM CDT, Doppler radar and automated rain gauges indicated
thunderstorms producing heavy rain across the warned area. Between
3 and 5 inches of rain have fallen. Flash flooding is ongoing or
expected to begin shortly.

HAZARD...Flash flooding caused by thunderstorms.

SOURCE...Radar and automated gauges. A LCRA rain gauge in
Midfield has reported 4.02 inches of rain over the
past hour.

IMPACT...Flash flooding of small creeks and streams, urban
areas, highways, streets and underpasses as well as
other poor drainage and low-lying areas.

* Some locations that will experience flash flooding include...
Western Bay City, Markham, Blessing and Midfield.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

Turn around, don`t drown when encountering flooded roads. Most flood
deaths occur in vehicles. Exercise caution if traveling along FM
2431 or SH-71 towards Midfield.

Be aware of your surroundings and do not drive on flooded roads.
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18z GFS has widespread 3-6 inches with isolated 8+
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0Z Euro
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CMC is seeing bust north of I-10 for the week. We'll see.

For today in Texas, a potential severe weather/tornado outbreak after 4 pm from Waco, DFW, to Longview:

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East and north of me, but...

https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md0436.html

Mesoscale Discussion 0436
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
1218 PM CDT Sun Apr 02 2023

Areas affected...southeast Texas toward into far western Louisiana

Concerning...Severe potential...Watch possible

Valid 021718Z - 022015Z

Probability of Watch Issuance...40 percent

SUMMARY...Scattered storms may develop over the next few hours, and
large hail will be possible with the stronger cells. A watch could
be considered later today, depending on convective evolution.

DISCUSSION...A warm front currently stretches from near Austin
toward Houston, with 70s F dewpoints to the south. Visible imagery
shows filtered heating across much of the moist sector, with
substantial deepening CU fields noted. North of the warm front
across eastern TX into LA, clear skies will lead to steepening
low-level lapse as moisture continues to surge northward into this
air mass.

Observed and model soundings indicate a warm layer close to 700 mb,
but these temperatures cool with eastward extent and into LA. For
example, currently 3-4 C difference between Austin and the TX/LA
border.

As such, the most likely area for storm development will be within
the low-level theta-e advection regime, and beneath the cooler
temperatures aloft. CAMs suggest at least isolated activity will
occur this afternoon, and ample instability, long hodographs and
sufficiently steep midlevel lapse rates will favor hail production.
Given subtle lift, it may take some time for cells to become severe.

..Jewell.. 04/02/2023

...Please see www.spc.noaa.gov for graphic product...

ATTN...WFO...LCH...SHV...HGX...FWD...
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Day 1 Convective Outlook
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
1115 AM CDT Sun Apr 02 2023

Valid 021630Z - 031200Z

...THERE IS AN ENHANCED RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS OVER MUCH OF
NORTH TEXAS THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING...

...SUMMARY...
Scattered severe thunderstorms are expected across central to
northeast Texas between 2 to 11 PM CDT. Very large hail and several
tornadoes are possible, a couple of which may be strong.

...TX/OK/LA...
Morning water vapor loop shows a well-defined and compact midlevel
shortwave trough moving quickly eastward across NM/Southwest TX.
This trough and its associated 60-70kt midlevel jet will track
across TX this afternoon and evening, providing large scale ascent
for a round of intense thunderstorms. Low-level moisture is
returning northward quickly this morning, with dewpoints in the 60s
expected as far north as the Red River. A combination of relatively
strong surface heating, very steep midlevel lapse rates, and rapid
cooling of midlevel temperatures will yield a corridor of afternoon
MLCAPE values ~2000 J/kg along and east of the dryline.

Current indications are that thunderstorms will form quickly by
mid-afternoon along and east of the dryline over western North Texas
and southwest OK as the upper trough arrives. These storms will
likely intensify rapidly into supercells with a risk of very large
hail and a tornado or two. This activity will increase in coverage
as it spreads eastward along the northern edge of rapid moisture
return toward the DFW metro area. Very large hail will remain a
concern, but most model guidance also shows strengthening low-level
wind fields and shear, promoting an increasing risk of tornadoes and
damaging wind gusts. A strong tornado or two will be possible.

By mid-evening, activity will likely congeal into an MCS tracking
eastward into northeast TX and northwest LA. Damaging wind risk
will increase, while the risk of hail and a tornado or two persists.
There is uncertainty how far east this MCS will maintain a severe
risk. Will not adjust the outlook areas at this time, but will
re-evaluate the need for SLGT farther east in later updates.

..Hart/Lyons.. 04/02/2023
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