August 2021: Major Hurricane Ida/SE Louisiana Landfall
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The location of the LLC will likely be key for the eventual track of this system. Obviously, a lot can change but most models indicate that if the storm stays north of the Yucatan Peninsula a track towards the border or into Lousiana is more likely. If we see the system track across the Peninsula there is a greater threat to Texas and the Upper Texas Coast in particular. That is ultimately why we are seeing so much spread with the ensembles and the rapid change in solutions from the last couple of days.
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This spread by the models and shifting right and left by the models has me thinking about the cupid shuffle song, to the right to the right, to the left to the left cause thats exactly what the models have been doing lol
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Interestingly there are some GEFS members that cross the Yucatan only to take a more northerly turn on approach. There are also a couple that go through the channel, or even skirt Cuba only to bend westward in the central Gulf.Andrew wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:13 pm The location of the LLC will likely be key for the eventual track of this system. Obviously, a lot can change but most models indicate that if the storm stays north of the Yucatan Peninsula a track towards the border or into Lousiana is more likely. If we see the system track across the Peninsula there is a greater threat to Texas and the Upper Texas Coast in particular. That is ultimately why we are seeing so much spread with the ensembles and the rapid change in solutions from the last couple of days.
LLC consolidation is important, but I still think trough interaction and ridge placement will be critical too.
Assuming repeat of last year's many repeats (i.e., LaTx Border, LC) until we know more from hurricane hunters, closed CoC, timing of disappearing ridge, etc.
18z ICON shifts further e and continues to show vorticity crossing Jamaica and then developing similar to the GFS. However it appears to me that the energy is still moving w to wnw with the axis and it will be past Jamaica before the vorticity shows a more organizing consolidation.
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Scott747 I have to agree with you about the movement of the wave because it still looks like its moving more west atm,
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True it performed very poorly with Henri and Grace
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True, ridge strength will be crucial but a lot of the models that show a Texas landfall do have it crossing the Yucatan before turning North. the 18Z GFS is coming in with a huge jump to the north through 72Hrs.weatherguy425 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:24 pmInterestingly there are some GEFS members that cross the Yucatan only to take a more northerly turn on approach. There are also a couple that go through the channel, or even skirt Cuba only to bend westward in the central Gulf.Andrew wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:13 pm The location of the LLC will likely be key for the eventual track of this system. Obviously, a lot can change but most models indicate that if the storm stays north of the Yucatan Peninsula a track towards the border or into Lousiana is more likely. If we see the system track across the Peninsula there is a greater threat to Texas and the Upper Texas Coast in particular. That is ultimately why we are seeing so much spread with the ensembles and the rapid change in solutions from the last couple of days.
LLC consolidation is important, but I still think trough interaction and ridge placement will be critical too.
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This is one helluva shift between individual runs...
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Im not buying into this solution by the GFS, I just dont see that dramatic of a northward shift, besides the energy still looks to ve moving more W to WNW,
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The northward jump doesn’t occur until it gets closer to, and then into, the Gulf. It’s initialization isn’t terrible. Though, that doesn’t mean it’s right either.Stratton20 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:31 pm Im not buying into this solution by the GFS, I just dont see that dramatic of a northward shift, besides the energy still looks to ve moving more W to WNW,
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weatherguy425 its not bad but im definitely skeptical of this, we will see what happens, but im not buying into this until other models do something similar
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Ya, I'm not buying that gfs run...atleast not yet
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Nothing to buy into yet, anyway. But, as Andrew mentioned it is one moment within a general trend - eastward. Could shift back west... or may not. We’ll be more confident by Friday evening.Stratton20 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:38 pm weatherguy425 its not bad but im definitely skeptical of this, we will see what happens, but im not buying into this until other models do something similar
GFS landfall New Orleans what next Florida.
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FXUS64 KHGX 252027
AFDHGX
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Houston/Galveston TX
327 PM CDT Wed Aug 25 2021
.SHORT TERM [Today Through Thursday Night]...
Shower/thunderstorm development is currently ongoing along outflow
boundaries south of I-10. Coverage is already more widespread than
yesterday due to higher amounts of moisture in place. GOES derived
PW values range from 2.0"-2.1" across the area. Forecast soundings
still show an inverted-V with dry air in the lowest 5,000 ft above
the surface, so gusty winds will be possible this afternoon with any
of the stronger thunderstorms. Temperatures this afternoon will
reach the mid-to-upper 90s for most locations once again. Some may
get lucky with the afternoon downpours and remain below this mark.
The upper-level high that remains over the Oklahoma/Texas border
today will continue to weaken allowing for moisture to further
increase going into Thursday. Additionally, shortwaves will continue
to become embedded in the upper-level flow leading to steady PVA
across the area. In simpler terms, rain chances will persist
overnight and into tomorrow, especially south of I-10 and along the
coast.
With slightly increased moisture (PW values ranging from 2.1"-2.2")
and a surface trough moving into the region on Thursday, rain
chances will be a bit higher as coverage of convection will be more
widespread than today`s. Locally heavy rainfall and gusty winds will
remain a concern with any of the stronger storms as forecast
soundings still indicate an Inverted-V for Thursday. The higher rain
chances do mark the return of slightly cooler temperatures though!
Instead of highs in the mid-to-upper 90s like we have seen over the
past few days, we`ll finally return to near-normal temperatures with
highs in the low-to-mid 90s.
Batiste
&&
.LONG TERM [Friday Through Wednesday]...
Shower and thunderstorm chances will remain in the forecast Friday,
Saturday and Sunday as disturbances generally move westward across
the area. Brief locally heavy rainfall will be possible due to high
moisture levels (precipitable water values above two inches). Best
chances for most spots look to occur during the daytime through early
evening hours, but overnight activity could develop too each night,
mainly near the coast and offshore.
The National Hurricane Center continues to monitor Invest 99L in the
central Caribbean Sea. Their 1 PM outlook indicated a 50% chance of
tropical cyclone formation through the next 48 hours and an 80% chance
through the next five days. Models continue to eventually bring this
system near/around/over the Yucatan Peninsula, into the Gulf of Mexico
and gradually work it into the northwest Gulf with a landfall some
time in a Monday-Tuesday time period as a hurricane as it works its
way around the western edge of high pressure. Until this system finally
gets organized over the next couple of days, expect models to continue
to offer different track and intensity forecasts. Once organization
finally does happen, we will begin to get a better feel as to where
and when this system will go and how intense it could become.
Impacts for our area currently look to be increasing wave heights and
rip currents as early as this weekend with the potential for heavy
rainfall and winds heading into the start of the week.
Continue to closely monitor the official National Hurricane Center forecasts
as they take into account the differing model solutions and their associated
strengths, weaknesses and weaknesses. Now is the time to review your
hurricane preparedness plans/kits to make sure they are up to date.
42
&&
.MARINE...
Onshore flow will continue for the remainder of the week and into the
start of the weekend along with increasing chances of showers and
thunderstorms. Sunday through Tuesday may have deteriorating and
potentially very hazardous conditions as long period swells emanate
out from a potential tropical system that may develop/intensify quickly
over the Gulf and may get close to our area. Mariners should closely
monitor the progress of this system. 42
&&
.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 1259 PM CDT Wed Aug 25 2021/
AVIATION [18Z TAF Issuance]...
Showers and thunderstorms already beginning to develop along the
coast near GLS. Convection should hold off across the rest of the
area until around 20z with coverage being isolated to widely
scattered. Winds remain on the light side and out of the
southeast/east-southeast. Any convection that develops will
dissipate shortly after sunset with the loss of daytime heating.
Winds become light and variable once again overnight as the
pressure gradient weakens. Easterly winds will kick back in on
Thursday morning. Shower/thunderstorm coverage expected to be more
widespread tomorrow with additional moisture in place. Overall,
VFR conditions will continue to prevail throughout the TAF period.
Batiste
&&
.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
College Station (CLL) 77 96 75 91 74 / 20 40 10 40 10
Houston (IAH) 78 95 77 90 76 / 20 60 30 60 20
Galveston (GLS) 81 90 80 89 81 / 40 60 60 60 30
&&
.HGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
TX...NONE.
GM...NONE.
&&
$$
FXUS64 KHGX 252027
AFDHGX
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Houston/Galveston TX
327 PM CDT Wed Aug 25 2021
.SHORT TERM [Today Through Thursday Night]...
Shower/thunderstorm development is currently ongoing along outflow
boundaries south of I-10. Coverage is already more widespread than
yesterday due to higher amounts of moisture in place. GOES derived
PW values range from 2.0"-2.1" across the area. Forecast soundings
still show an inverted-V with dry air in the lowest 5,000 ft above
the surface, so gusty winds will be possible this afternoon with any
of the stronger thunderstorms. Temperatures this afternoon will
reach the mid-to-upper 90s for most locations once again. Some may
get lucky with the afternoon downpours and remain below this mark.
The upper-level high that remains over the Oklahoma/Texas border
today will continue to weaken allowing for moisture to further
increase going into Thursday. Additionally, shortwaves will continue
to become embedded in the upper-level flow leading to steady PVA
across the area. In simpler terms, rain chances will persist
overnight and into tomorrow, especially south of I-10 and along the
coast.
With slightly increased moisture (PW values ranging from 2.1"-2.2")
and a surface trough moving into the region on Thursday, rain
chances will be a bit higher as coverage of convection will be more
widespread than today`s. Locally heavy rainfall and gusty winds will
remain a concern with any of the stronger storms as forecast
soundings still indicate an Inverted-V for Thursday. The higher rain
chances do mark the return of slightly cooler temperatures though!
Instead of highs in the mid-to-upper 90s like we have seen over the
past few days, we`ll finally return to near-normal temperatures with
highs in the low-to-mid 90s.
Batiste
&&
.LONG TERM [Friday Through Wednesday]...
Shower and thunderstorm chances will remain in the forecast Friday,
Saturday and Sunday as disturbances generally move westward across
the area. Brief locally heavy rainfall will be possible due to high
moisture levels (precipitable water values above two inches). Best
chances for most spots look to occur during the daytime through early
evening hours, but overnight activity could develop too each night,
mainly near the coast and offshore.
The National Hurricane Center continues to monitor Invest 99L in the
central Caribbean Sea. Their 1 PM outlook indicated a 50% chance of
tropical cyclone formation through the next 48 hours and an 80% chance
through the next five days. Models continue to eventually bring this
system near/around/over the Yucatan Peninsula, into the Gulf of Mexico
and gradually work it into the northwest Gulf with a landfall some
time in a Monday-Tuesday time period as a hurricane as it works its
way around the western edge of high pressure. Until this system finally
gets organized over the next couple of days, expect models to continue
to offer different track and intensity forecasts. Once organization
finally does happen, we will begin to get a better feel as to where
and when this system will go and how intense it could become.
Impacts for our area currently look to be increasing wave heights and
rip currents as early as this weekend with the potential for heavy
rainfall and winds heading into the start of the week.
Continue to closely monitor the official National Hurricane Center forecasts
as they take into account the differing model solutions and their associated
strengths, weaknesses and weaknesses. Now is the time to review your
hurricane preparedness plans/kits to make sure they are up to date.
42
&&
.MARINE...
Onshore flow will continue for the remainder of the week and into the
start of the weekend along with increasing chances of showers and
thunderstorms. Sunday through Tuesday may have deteriorating and
potentially very hazardous conditions as long period swells emanate
out from a potential tropical system that may develop/intensify quickly
over the Gulf and may get close to our area. Mariners should closely
monitor the progress of this system. 42
&&
.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 1259 PM CDT Wed Aug 25 2021/
AVIATION [18Z TAF Issuance]...
Showers and thunderstorms already beginning to develop along the
coast near GLS. Convection should hold off across the rest of the
area until around 20z with coverage being isolated to widely
scattered. Winds remain on the light side and out of the
southeast/east-southeast. Any convection that develops will
dissipate shortly after sunset with the loss of daytime heating.
Winds become light and variable once again overnight as the
pressure gradient weakens. Easterly winds will kick back in on
Thursday morning. Shower/thunderstorm coverage expected to be more
widespread tomorrow with additional moisture in place. Overall,
VFR conditions will continue to prevail throughout the TAF period.
Batiste
&&
.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
College Station (CLL) 77 96 75 91 74 / 20 40 10 40 10
Houston (IAH) 78 95 77 90 76 / 20 60 30 60 20
Galveston (GLS) 81 90 80 89 81 / 40 60 60 60 30
&&
.HGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
TX...NONE.
GM...NONE.
&&
$$