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Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Passing South Of Key West

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:54 pm
by tireman4
I noticed that too. Interesting....to say the least...

Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Passing South Of Key West

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:57 pm
by sambucol
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Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Passing South Of Key West

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:58 pm
by Andrew
Scott747 wrote:Seeing some changes with the 18z GFS.

Not much different then the 12z but didn't think it would change much. If things are to change I would expect the 00z to be the big change with a shift east. That is if it follows the Ensemble members.

Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Passing South Of Key West

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:00 pm
by sambucol
GFS 84hrs
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Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Passing South Of Key West

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:03 pm
by Scott747
Andrew wrote:
Scott747 wrote:Seeing some changes with the 18z GFS.

Not much different then the 12z but didn't think it would change much. If things are to change I would expect the 00z to be the big change with a shift east. That is if it follows the Ensemble members.
Comes in around Houma at hr 51 but the ridge isn't as strong and doesn't have the pronounced westward movement as with the 12z .

Agree that it will be the 0z run where a shift to the E would possibly occur.

Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Passing South Of Key West

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:04 pm
by Portastorm
Seemed like the 18z was a little bit faster with storm motion as well as being a bit east of the 12z run.

Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Passing South Of Key West

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:06 pm
by CaliforniaSux
What were the coordinates from 11:00 am? I don't think this thing is moving nw...

Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Nearing The Florida Keys

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:06 pm
by Andrew
sambucol wrote:
Andrew wrote:This constant wnw movement is pretty concerning. Already a good bit farther south then the models projected
How will the more southern location affect the track of Isaac?

Well if we just have a temporary southern track it won't do much, but if this wnw movement continues for an extended period of time the trough will have less influence on Isaac since it is farther south. As a result an outcome like the gfs is advertising could occur versus the Euro which sends it North and eventually NE. It is a tricky situation because a little stronger or weaker ridging or trough could make a huge difference.

Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Passing South Of Key West

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:08 pm
by Andrew
Scott747 wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Scott747 wrote:Seeing some changes with the 18z GFS.

Not much different then the 12z but didn't think it would change much. If things are to change I would expect the 00z to be the big change with a shift east. That is if it follows the Ensemble members.
Comes in around Houma at hr 51 but the ridge isn't as strong and doesn't have the pronounced westward movement as with the 12z .

Agree that it will be the 0z run where a shift to the E would possibly occur.
Yea I noticed the ridging wasn't as strong but still isn't enough to send it NE. We will see what the 00z models show. The concerning part is they can't even verify in the short range movement (unless this movement switches) .

Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Passing South Of Key West

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:09 pm
by Andrew
CaliforniaSux wrote:What were the coordinates from 11:00 am? I don't think this thing is moving nw...
SUMMARY OF 1100 AM EDT...1500 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...23.9N 80.8W

SUMMARY OF 200 PM EDT...1800 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...23.9N 81.5W


EDIT TO ADD: Radar looks like it is moving almost due west.

Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Passing South Of Key West

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:13 pm
by ticka1
what changes? looks like some late nights for me this upcoming week......

Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Passing South Of Key West

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:16 pm
by CaliforniaSux
Andrew wrote:
CaliforniaSux wrote:What were the coordinates from 11:00 am? I don't think this thing is moving nw...
SUMMARY OF 1100 AM EDT...1500 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...23.9N 80.8W

SUMMARY OF 200 PM EDT...1800 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...23.9N 81.5W


EDIT TO ADD: Radar looks like it is moving almost due west.
So the newest 24.0 N is about 7 miles... This thing is moving west...

Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Passing South Of Key West

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:19 pm
by Andrew
CaliforniaSux wrote:
Andrew wrote:
CaliforniaSux wrote:What were the coordinates from 11:00 am? I don't think this thing is moving nw...
SUMMARY OF 1100 AM EDT...1500 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...23.9N 80.8W

SUMMARY OF 200 PM EDT...1800 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...23.9N 81.5W


EDIT TO ADD: Radar looks like it is moving almost due west.
So the newest 24.0 N is about 7 miles... This thing is moving west...
Yea... Been moving pretty much west/ wnw since about 11am

Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Passing South Of Key West

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:19 pm
by Scott747
Portastorm wrote:Seemed like the 18z was a little bit faster with storm motion as well as being a bit east of the 12z run.
Yeah it keeps getting a bit faster with each run. Approaching the coast early Tuesday evening.

Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Passing South Of Key West

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:25 pm
by Bluefalcon
Weather station MKRAU, a buoy I think, that is SW of Key West...is showing winds out of the ENE at 63 MPH! Dry Tortugas is showing 37 MPH with gusts to 51.

Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Passing South Of Key West

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:30 pm
by srainhoutx
Worrisome to see a CDO (Central Dense Overcast) developing. Past experience suggest that storms W and NW of Key West can develop rapidly...

Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Passing South Of Key West

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:33 pm
by sambucol
I read a discussion elsewhere that if it doesn't turn north by tomorrow afternoon, Houston and Beaumont will be on the table as possible landfall locations. Opinions anyone?

Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Passing South Of Key West

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:35 pm
by djmike
sambucol wrote:I read a discussion elsewhere that if it doesn't turn north by tomorrow afternoon, Houston and Beaumont will be on the table as possible landfall locations. Opinions anyone?
Read the exact same thing!

Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Passing South Of Key West

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:39 pm
by djjordan
Watched the NWS Houston/Galveston briefing just a second ago which offered their take on Isaac. Interesting to say the least.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/hgx/?n=briefing

Re: Tropical Storm Isaac: Passing South Of Key West

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:41 pm
by Andrew
djmike wrote:
sambucol wrote:I read a discussion elsewhere that if it doesn't turn north by tomorrow afternoon, Houston and Beaumont will be on the table as possible landfall locations. Opinions anyone?
Read the exact same thing!

Way too early to talk about this yet. Right now LA/ Mississippi looks like the area of concern.