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This is a 384 hour forecast from
http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/READYcmet.php

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Latitude: 29.75 Longitude: -95.35 &
DATA INITIAL TIME: 02 JAN 2011 12Z&03{
CALCULATION STARTED AT: 10 JAN 2011 12Z&
HOURS OF CALCULATION: 192 &

FIELD TEMPERATURE DEW POINT TEMPERATURE TEMPERATURE PRECIPITATION
LEVEL 2M 2M 850 MB 500 MB
UNITS DEGC DEGC DEGC DEGC MM
HR
+ 0. 0.5 -3.6 1.0 -17.0 0.00
+ 12. 4.6 -3.0 1.2 -14.4 0.00
+ 24. 1.4 -4.0 2.3 -10.9 0.00
+ 36. 7.6 1.3 3.4 -10.9 0.01
+ 48. 6.1 5.0 4.9 -11.2 0.00
+ 60. 13.7 11.5 7.3 -11.7 0.14
+ 72. 14.9 14.1 8.0 -13.9 0.12
+ 84. 17.5 16.3 10.1 -12.5 0.88
+ 96. 14.3 13.6 9.2 -12.9 2.00
+108. 4.5 2.7 9.6 -15.4 3.17
+120. 2.5 1.2 8.2 -14.5 1.25
+132. 5.8 3.9 9.6 -12.4 0.61
+144. 4.8 3.8 10.3 -13.8 2.00
+156. 3.6 2.5 8.0 -12.1 2.58
+168. -1.0 -2.1 5.7 -10.3 0.09
+180. 4.8 1.6 7.3 -10.9 0.09
+192. 4.6 3.1 8.9 -13.1 0.26

The bolded one caught my attention.

Baseballdude2915 wrote:Wx Underground has backed off, now it will be a balmy -85F Wednesday Night in Ojmjakon. WOW.

Looking at the Wiki page for that town, they stay below 0 from late October to late March.

Talk about cold right there! BRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

txsnowmaker wrote:

srainhoutx wrote:The Euro suggests an amazing bitter cold airmass settling in with reinforcing shots to follow. Wow!

Srain, is this run depicting a December 1989-type setup temperature wise (or something even colder)?

I don't think this freeze will be as potent as 1989. The pressure is not as high.

December 1989 freeze was a potent freeze, in some ways more potent than December 1983. 1989 was cold at all levels, unlike 1989.

December 1983


December 1989

txsnowmaker wrote:

A bit too soon to know with any certainty, but with the record cold building in Eurasia, it is certainly not out of the realm of possibilities. We will need to watch this very closely in the days ahead. The consistency via virtually all guidance lends credence to such an outbreak.

Thank you very much for the prompt response (and yours as well Candy Cane) and keeping everyone informed. Will certainly be keeping an eye on this one. Happy New Year to all.

We should certainly pay attention to the cold weather in Eurasia, mainly Siberia. The cold air in Eurasia makes it down to CONUS via Siberia, Alaska, and Canada. That is how many of the big freezes happen. I would imagine the February 1899 freeze had a similar setup to December 1983 and 1989, except it affected the whole nation! That is unheard of.

It's looking like it really is going to be get cold here with these runs being consistent. Are we looking at probable pipe-busting temps maybe similar January 2010? There are extra precautions we take around the house when we are facing those kind of temps, so any heads-up is appreciated.

12Z GFS certainly doesn't indicate anything really cold next weekend, but it is indicating that the very cold air in NW Canada may drop south the following week. Nothing spectacular as far as the temps in the long run, just upper 20s. Of course, that all depends on what cold airmass drops south, if any.



Note that on this extended range meteogram that the temperatures represented are only 6am and 6pm. Though the 6am temp will be fairly close to the morning lows, the 6pm temp may be 5-7 degrees cooler than the afternoon high. Also, the coldest air intrusion indicated below is well beyond the 240hr Euro:

I was wondering about after next weekend according the models srainhoutx has been discussing, Wxman, but thanks anyway!!

While the 12z gfs was not as strong the 6z and many runs before that showed a very strong high dropping down

6z:





12z has the cold air going east but check out the top left hand corner.

Well, all of this just means one thing, winter is far from over...
Should have one or two strong shots of cold air, certainly a pattern change for this winter.

Just for kicks, the 18z GFS shows 15 degrees at 384 hours out. LOL.

just looked at the 18z GFS..nothing really catching my eye in the reality range....though with a lot of guidance hinting I just about to jump on board. too much model support not to....

What are the chances that precipitation will be associated with this surge of arctic air?

Baseballdude2915 wrote:Well, all of this just means one thing, winter is far from over...
Should have one or two strong shots of cold air, certainly a pattern change for this winter.

Just for kicks, the 18z GFS shows 15 degrees at 384 hours out. LOL.

I'm seeing 21F at 6am on the 18th at IAH on the 18Z GFS, with 24F at 6pm that day. Of course, that's at the end of 16 days. Remember that the GFS just 3-4 days ago was forecasting snow here this coming weekend, now it is forecasting 50s and rain.

But there is some very cold air building in Canada. Might have a shot at a hard freeze here. Frozen precip is always quite difficult to get down here. The pattern that brings the cold air down may not be one to produce precip in the cold air.

00z a lot colder and wetter:

Heights on the 0z GFS for day 7 are lower in Houston, TX than northern areas of Alaska

That is a big time signal for some serious cold coming for the Lower 48...

0z GFS upper pattern day 7+ looks like the 12z Euro days 7-10. We probably have another arctic outbreak on the way... I was a bit skeptical at first, but these signals are hard to ignore.

wxman57 wrote:
I'm seeing 21F at 6am on the 18th at IAH on the 18Z GFS, with 24F at 6pm that day. Of course, that's at the end of 16 days. Remember that the GFS just 3-4 days ago was forecasting snow here this coming weekend, now it is forecasting 50s and rain.

But there is some very cold air building in Canada. Might have a shot at a hard freeze here. Frozen precip is always quite difficult to get down here. The pattern that brings the cold air down may not be one to produce precip in the cold air.

That's still very cold with the average temperature of 22F! That would be one of the coldest days in quite some times, if not coldest day on record. The closest I can think of a day that cold would be on December 23, 1989, which hit 7F that day. The coldest day ever recorded was February 13, 1899. The low was 6F and high was 20F. The average for that day was 13F! It was during the 1899 Freeze, one of the biggest freezes.

Mr. T wrote:Heights on the 0z GFS for day 7 are lower in Houston, TX than northern areas of Alaska

That is a big time signal for some serious cold coming for the Lower 48...

0z GFS upper pattern day 7+ looks like the 12z Euro days 7-10. We probably have another arctic outbreak on the way... I was a bit skeptical at first, but these signals are hard to ignore.

I have seen models that far out, as far as 16 days and they have been right in the past. Something tells me we will see a major Arctic blast.

Also something to look at for the shorter range is the low that tracks across SE Texas at hour 162:

Andrew wrote:Also something to look at for the shorter range is the low that tracks across SE Texas at hour 162:

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... p_162l.gif

Looks to be a rainy one.

I'm not sure why I see all these posts about surface temperature forecasts from the GFS beyond day 7... That's not what's important here

Any basic knowledge of pattern recognition at day 7 should be good enough for anyone to see that we will likely have a couple of heavy arctic dumps for the Lower 48 on the way.

There's been a few musings on other forums from the experts that this upcoming period for mid to late January may be one of the coldest on record for the United States.

Ptarmigan wrote: I have seen models that far out, as far as 16 days and they have been right in the past. Something tells me we will see a major Arctic blast.

To be honest, I wouldn't care if the GFS was showing a blowtorch at this point after day 7. Just look at what the Pacific pattern is about to do this week... This should be enough to tell everyone that a major cold pattern is developing.

In fact, this pattern will be similar to the first 15 days of January last year. However, it could be colder across the Lower 48 as, unlike last year, we will actually have an established cross polar flow that should bring about much colder air into Canada than what we saw at any point last year... With the polar vortex moving on our side of the pole (forecasted by the GFS and Euro), we may see records fall across a large area of the US.