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Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:32 pm
by Rip76
How is a weaker storm like this able to push that dry air back like that?

Is it because the wind field is so large?

Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:34 pm
by CRASHWX
That’s a good PRO MET question

Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:36 pm
by CRASHWX
Sat loop certainly looking much healthier
https://cdn.star.nesdis.noaa.gov//GOES1 ... 0x1000.gif

Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:46 pm
by Scott747
Recon has circled back twice now trying to fix the new center. Looks even further w than I initially thought.

Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:51 pm
by Andrew
Rip76 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:32 pm How is a weaker storm like this able to push that dry air back like that?

Is it because the wind field is so large?
Beta hasn't really pushed the dry air back that well actually. You could actually argue the dry air is the largest inhibiting factor why this system won't intensify much. It's also a reason why a lot of the models show less QPF over the region compared to similar storms because of the dry air. For Beta it's going to be a constant battle between the dry air and moisture trying to stream in. With that said, the larger size has helped some on trying to moisten up the environment.

Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:56 pm
by Rip76
Andrew wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:51 pm
Rip76 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:32 pm How is a weaker storm like this able to push that dry air back like that?

Is it because the wind field is so large?
Beta hasn't really pushed the dry air back that well actually. You could actually argue the dry air is the largest inhibiting factor why this system won't intensify much. It's also a reason why a lot of the models show less QPF over the region compared to similar storms because of the dry air. For Beta it's going to be a constant battle between the dry air and moisture trying to stream in. With that said, the larger size has helped some on trying to moisten up the environment.
Got it. thank you.

Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:02 pm
by Rip76

Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:03 pm
by davidiowx
Is that an eye on radar? Seeing Bastardi and others in twitter talking about it. If it is, that’s interesting

Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:05 pm
by davidiowx

Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:13 pm
by Cromagnum
Surely that 105 gust is a typo?

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Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:13 pm
by Rip76

Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:23 pm
by Scott747
Scott747 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:46 pm Recon has circled back twice now trying to fix the new center. Looks even further w than I initially thought.
NHC confirms that the center has relocated further w at 93.6 and a pressure of 996.

Unfortunately it looks like recon is headed home.

Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:24 pm
by Rip76
Scott747 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:23 pm
Scott747 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:46 pm Recon has circled back twice now trying to fix the new center. Looks even further w than I initially thought.
NHC confirms that the center has relocated further w at 93.6 and a pressure of 996.

Unfortunately it looks like recon is headed home.
Sooooo 2020.

Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:30 pm
by sau27
It’s really trying to insulate it’s center with this blow up. Good view on visible.

Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:31 pm
by CRASHWX
Andrew wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:51 pm
Rip76 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:32 pm How is a weaker storm like this able to push that dry air back like that?

Is it because the wind field is so large?
Beta hasn't really pushed the dry air back that well actually. You could actually argue the dry air is the largest inhibiting factor why this system won't intensify much. It's also a reason why a lot of the models show less QPF over the region compared to similar storms because of the dry air. For Beta it's going to be a constant battle between the dry air and moisture trying to stream in. With that said, the larger size has helped some on trying to moisten up the environment.
Guess I stand corrected...water vape loop just gave me that impression. I guess we will see what it does with it’s environment.

Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:32 pm
by Rip76
I saw it too.

Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:33 pm
by djmike
Getting some pretty good sustainable winds here in Beaumont with some gusts. I wasn’t expecting this. Just saw the 1pm wind swath and now currently covers extreme SETX and Beaumont. Not yet to houston. But wind gust this far out from coc? Have feeling Beta may pull a few tricks we are not expecting. Eye? Wow!

Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:34 pm
by Kingwood36
Got a good down pour in surfside wind has been steady pretty much all morning those flags are humming along

Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:36 pm
by CRASHWX

Re: September 2020: Tracking TS Beta

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:40 pm
by davidiowx
Updated storm surge per Jeff Lindner “ Updated storm surge values now 3-5 ft in Galveston Bay and the coast NE of San Luis Pass”

https://twitter.com/jefflindner1/status ... 50752?s=21