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Re: December 2021

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:33 pm
by Belmer
If I didn't know better, 20 pages into a thread in which the month hasn't even started yet, I'd think there would be an incoming blizzard later this week.

We all need to remember, models are just one tool in a very large toolbox. This forum wouldn't be where it is today without the many great dialogues from members, present or past. Limiting conversation and discussion about models isn't what this forum is about. But perhaps we look at creating a separate thread of the meteorological seasons (similar to s2k) where all members - whether local or afar - can join and continue discussing model-to-model runs without it clouding up our monthly discussions that really pertain here more locally.

I'm open to thoughts, but the purpose of this forum is to allow these conversations, but in ways where it can benefit everyone.

With that said, between the GFS and EPS model runs over the last 48 hours should be a huge red flag not to put any trust in one model right now. La Nina winters are typically above average down here with the exception of a few strong dips, including what we saw last February. Having any expectation that we'll repeat Feb '21 or previous historic winters just aren't probable year in and year out.

Re: December 2021

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:59 pm
by Stratton20
Belmer I think creating a separate thread for that reason is an excellent idea, i definitely am glued to the models run by run lol, but I definitely agree with this idea

Re: December 2021

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:03 pm
by Iceresistance
Belmer wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:33 pm If I didn't know better, 20 pages into a thread in which the month hasn't even started yet, I'd think there would be an incoming blizzard later this week.

We all need to remember, models are just one tool in a very large toolbox. This forum wouldn't be where it is today without the many great dialogues from members, present or past. Limiting conversation and discussion about models isn't what this forum is about. But perhaps we look at creating a separate thread of the meteorological seasons (similar to s2k) where all members - whether local or afar - can join and continue discussing model-to-model runs without it clouding up our monthly discussions that really pertain here more locally.

I'm open to thoughts, but the purpose of this forum is to allow these conversations, but in ways where it can benefit everyone.

With that said, between the GFS and EPS model runs over the last 48 hours should be a huge red flag not to put any trust in one model right now. La Nina winters are typically above average down here with the exception of a few strong dips, including what we saw last February. Having any expectation that we'll repeat Feb '21 or previous historic winters just aren't probable year in and year out.

I can also confirm that the Ensembles are in conflict with the main models as well (GFS & GEFS for example)

And yes, we can do a 2021 or 2022 Model runs discussion

Right now, can't do a Oklahoma forum, I'm the only active Oklahoma member here.

Re: December 2021

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:37 pm
by Cpv17
I’m not gonna worry too much about the cold for now. I don’t really see anything that suggests it’s going to get cold anytime soon. However, we might begin to see more rain chances if the GFS verifies. The Euro is just plain jane boring!

Re: December 2021

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:30 pm
by Cpv17
MontgomeryCoWx wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:23 pm It’s getting hard to come to this site. Less discussion and more bleeding all over the board.

Winter starts tomorrow. It will probably be like a traditional Niña where roller coaster temps happen. I’d put the over/under on good cold snaps at 2.5. Id put the over/under on freezes (for my place) at 14.5.

3/4 of you hug models too much instead of employ common sense. It was the same at the beginning of last winter and the one before that and so on.

We have been losing the good posters (or at least frequency of posts from good ones) around here because of the ones who make blanket statements with no backing.

Y’all enjoy the Holidays.
A lot of people aren’t as knowledgeable as you are to back their statements up though. A lot of youngins on here. I feel we should be teaching them everything we know instead of criticizing them. I myself still have a lot to learn. Big reason why I miss srain. I love learning as much as I can and then sharing my knowledge with others.

Re: December 2021

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:09 am
by Iceresistance
6z GFS is showing a Stratwarm that dirsrupts the PV (Which could stretch itself for a cold wave around Christmas Week to New Years)

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Re: December 2021

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:40 am
by jasons2k
Welcome to the first day of the meteorological winter. Enjoy, cold weather lovers. I hope it stays above 25 degrees this season. My countdown to Spring begins now.

Re: December 2021

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:07 pm
by snowman65
can winter actually be over before it starts?? lol

Re: December 2021

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:12 pm
by Stratton20
Looks like some pool weather here in CS the next 5-7 days lol

Re: December 2021

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:54 pm
by DoctorMu
Going as expected. Dry and warm in the first half of Dec. La Nina winters can have those occasional blue norther. Late December is often good timing. The good news is that a typical La Nina features more sunshine. Always be prepared for the occasional La Nina surprise.

Re: December 2021

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:56 pm
by Iceresistance
Stratton20 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:12 pm Looks like some pool weather here in CS the next 5-7 days lol
I'm expecting highs near 80 in the next couple of days.


It's December! Not August or May!

Re: December 2021

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:58 pm
by DoctorMu
jasons2k wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:40 am Welcome to the first day of the meteorological winter. Enjoy, cold weather lovers. I hope it stays above 25 degrees this season. My countdown to Spring begins now.
Welp, you've gotten your wish! A beautiful Spring day in the Brazos Valley...SW breeze. Unfortunately, that blows my neighbor's leaves into our yard! :lol:

Re: December 2021

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:21 pm
by Stratton20
Iceresistance anything above 70 is considered pool weather to me😂😂

Re: December 2021

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:44 pm
by Iceresistance
Spring was dragging late, so was Summer, will Winter do the same thing & keep that trend going?

Re: December 2021

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:50 pm
by DoctorMu
GFS weak with cold air over the next 14 days. Canadian is a little more aggressive, but we'd only be seasonable mid Dec instead of cold. Euro slides the cold air east of us.

Ice - it's like our weather has been on a 30 day phase delay (lagging) over the entire year. Cooler than average until October. A/C bills have been way too high for Fall.

Re: December 2021

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:23 pm
by Kingwood36
I broke out with sweat putting up Christmas lights today...lol..crimes against humanity😂

Re: December 2021

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:11 pm
by Iceresistance
DoctorMu wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:50 pm GFS weak with cold air over the next 14 days. Canadian is a little more aggressive, but we'd only be seasonable mid Dec instead of cold. Euro slides the cold air east of us.

Ice - it's like our weather has been on a 30 day phase delay (lagging) over the entire year. Cooler than average until October. A/C bills have been way too high for Fall.
Sometimes the Weather patterns are about as bad as Lag on the Internet! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: December 2021

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:47 pm
by Stratton20
These model runs are boring with a capital B! Nothing even remotely interesting showing up

Re: December 2021

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:42 am
by snowman65
Sorry folks....winter's closed...

Re: December 2021

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:07 am
by Iceresistance
snowman65 wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:42 am Sorry folks....winter's closed...
Did we have the same mindset this past winter?