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Re: December 2021

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:15 am
by Kingwood36
We need that postive to go kick rocks lol 😆

Re: December 2021

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:58 am
by Iceresistance
I forgot to mention that a Negative PNA would also be nice since as it turns positive, the cold air from the West Coast will eventually come here

Re: December 2021

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:26 am
by DoctorMu
GFS 06z has a very light freeze in HOU and mid 20s in CLL on Dec 11. Not unusual for mid December. There does seem significant support behind the cold mass (-15°F to -40°F in Montana, Dakotas), so the unusual part could be the length/reinforcement of the cold snap.

It's a long way off. We'll see.

Re: December 2021

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:47 am
by Iceresistance
12z GFS is surging it MUCH faster compared to the 6z!

Re: December 2021

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:37 am
by Iceresistance
End of the 12z run on the GFS has a Snowstorm for DFW & Oklahoma.

Re: December 2021

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:10 pm
by Stratton20
Iceresistance yup i saw that

Re: December 2021

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:13 pm
by DoctorMu
Iceresistance wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:37 am End of the 12z run on the GFS has a Snowstorm for DFW & Oklahoma.
True, but 20-50°F warmer in that run in the Rockies. I expect this fantasy to fade away. :lol:

Re: December 2021

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:51 pm
by Iceresistance
18z GFS trended colder again compared to 12z

Re: December 2021

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:02 pm
by Kingwood36
I'm about 50/50 of this becoming a reality

Re: December 2021

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:06 pm
by sambucol
The trend is our friend👍

Re: December 2021

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:11 pm
by Iceresistance
Texas only gets a glancing blow from the December Polar Vortex in the 18z GFS, but this is previewing what may happen this coming February . . .

Re: December 2021

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:20 pm
by Kingwood36
Glancing blows are getter then nothing I suppose

Re: December 2021

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:20 pm
by Stratton20
im not sold on a goancing blow or a direct hit from the cold air yet, probably wont know that answer for another 8-9 days

Re: December 2021

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:39 pm
by Iceresistance
0z GFS is still on a Glancing blow for Texas, but it has trended slightly southward again . . .

Re: December 2021

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:41 pm
by Stratton20
Iceresistance meh the GFS doesn’t show much of a cooldown at all, I think the model is really struggling to pick up on how much cold air is up in the source region right now

Re: December 2021

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:43 pm
by Iceresistance
Stratton20 wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:41 pm Iceresistance meh the GFS doesn’t show much of a cooldown at all, I think the model is really struggling to pick up on how much cold air is up in the source region right now
Likely underestimating/overestimating the cold air in the source region?

Re: December 2021

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:47 pm
by Stratton20
Iceresistance yes, because it literally has little to no cooldown for us anymore in the long range, but we will see, seems like cold arctic air always gives the models fits

Re: December 2021

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:48 pm
by Cpv17
I’m not going to get too excited or believe anything till it’s within 5 days. Anything past that is a crapshoot. The cold pool of water south of Alaska could be a big detriment towards our winter this season. We really need that area to warm up. Hard to get cold air down here with below average SST’s in that region.

Re: December 2021

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:54 pm
by Stratton20
CPV17 well lets hope those sea temps warm up soon, definitely dont want a repeat from winter a few years back where christmas was in the low 80’s in SE Texas🤢🤮🤮😂

Re: December 2021

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:04 am
by Iceresistance
Stratton20 wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:54 pm CPV17 well lets hope those sea temps warm up soon, definitely dont want a repeat from winter a few years back where christmas was in the low 80’s in SE Texas🤢🤮🤮😂
I once had a streak from 2016-2019 when there was a Thunderstorm on Christmas Day or Eve in Springfield, MO when I was with my Great-Grandparents.