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Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:39 pm
by sambucol
Stratton20 wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:14 pm Thundersleet yeah we arent finished yet, models are showing, especially the euro, a lobe of the tropospheric polar vortex breaking off and diving down into central canada and eventually the US border, this is something that could drag down some much colder air into the US, but it also will give the models plenty of fits
Is that in the Feb 17-20 timeframe?

Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:23 am
by Stratton20
sambucol yeah, for now the euro is the most bullish, so we just wait and watch

Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:48 pm
by Stratton20
Hmm?🤔🤔 Models agree we get chilly this weekend, now if we can just time that cold air..

Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:57 pm
by Cpv17
Stratton20 wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:48 pm Hmm?🤔🤔 Models agree we get chilly this weekend, now if we can just time that cold air..
Wish it would happen! Prove all the doubters wrong about winter being over lol

Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:05 pm
by Stratton20
Cpv17 I know man, i dont care if we just get flurries, i just want something exciting to happen, fingers crossed this isnt a one time run, but knowing the GFS, its probably just a tease lol

Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:51 pm
by sambucol
What kind of temps?

Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:56 pm
by Stratton20
Sambucol highs in the low 40’s, lows near 32 ish,

Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:28 pm
by Stratton20
Interesting , just updated a few days ago by NOAA, they dont think winter is over, also discussing potential 2nd SSWE with possible impacts in early march

Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:32 pm
by Stratton20
GFS, Euro and both ensembles on board that a SSWE is under way sometime this week i believe, from what ive heard at least, potentiall impacts in early march, but could also just effect europe just as much as the US, so lots to watch, but this is a big factor as to why I believe people are throwing the towel in way too early despite us going into a warmer pattern for a while

Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:16 pm
by sambucol
Stratton, are the models showing a SSWE?

Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:24 pm
by Stratton20
Sambucol yes, the GFS , Euro, and their respective ensembles, although i dont know too much about how to read SSWE’s on guidance,, if you want to have a good read, look up a guy named Judah Cohan on X, he published a free public article talking about this yesterday, very reliable source and has years of research done on the polar vortex and SSWE’s, NOAA mentioned possible SSWE in their 3-4 week outlook so it definitely is catching meteorologists attentions

Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:38 pm
by sambucol
I’m not so certain winter is done. With a SSWE, doesn’t that dislodge the cold air sending it into the lower 48?

Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:44 pm
by Stratton20
sambucol not all the time, a SSWE can also effect other areas of the world such as asia/ europe, so its not a guarantee that it will effect the us or down here, but if you remember back in january when we got really cold, that was due to.a SSWE occurring, but that was a minor SSWE, this one could be potentially a major SSWE, their is usually a 2 week delay after a SSWE has occurred so we have alot of time to watch and see how this plays out

Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:49 pm
by sambucol
In Feb 2021, was there a large SSWE?

Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:54 pm
by Stratton20
Yep that is correct, but since this one is headed towards march, it wouldnt be as nuts because its march, however you can still get really cold in march if the SSWE impacts our side of the globe

Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:59 pm
by sambucol
Yes it can get really cold in March. I hope we do get another cold front before spring really arrives.

Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:06 pm
by Stratton20
sambucol youll like the picture i posted in the march threat if you like cooler/ below average temps!

Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:12 am
by sambucol
Checked it out. Looks good for March with the cooler temps.

Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:27 pm
by Thundersleet
Personally, I do not mind if March ends up being below average temperature wise and the same with early and perhaps even mid Spring to delay the Summer heat.

Re: Long range model discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:30 pm
by Thundersleet
And as KHOU 11 News Chief Meteorologist David Paul would say something like & I quote “let Winter be Winter and each season of the year be itself.