August 2022

General Weather Discussions and Analysis
User avatar
jasons2k
Posts: 5406
Joined: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Imperial Oaks
Contact:

tireman4 wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:31 am Maybe this just me, but it was a little odd that HGX did not give the AFD in the 12 noon hour. They waited until 3:45 to give it. ( They normally will give a 12 and a 3 ish. Just odd.
I saw that. I also don’t understand this new thing of saying what was updated in the header, then they copy/paste the entire discussion and you have scroll and hunt for the relevant changes.

It was so much simpler when the updates were that and only that - just the update. This new process is whack.
User avatar
don
Posts: 2629
Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:33 pm
Location: Heights
Contact:

jasons2k wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:52 am Is it just me or is the low in Louisiana retrograding?
Yes it is, models show the low back over Texas this weekend.
redneckweather
Posts: 1023
Joined: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:29 pm
Location: Montgomery, Texas
Contact:

Ike was in 2008 but yes, this system needs to be very closely monitored. Hmmmm
Cpv17
Posts: 5312
Joined: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:58 pm
Location: El Campo/Wharton
Contact:

Well 57 doesn’t really seem the least bit worried about it. He’s basically saying this is just a phantom storm the models are showing. Me personally, I don’t agree with that but I’m just an amateur.
Stratton20
Posts: 4251
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:35 pm
Location: College Station, Texas
Contact:

Cpv17 I have to disagree with that as well, maybe not as strong, but its not just the GFS operational showing the potential for a really strong system, EPS and GEFS members have some stronger solutions as well
brazoriatx
Posts: 329
Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:09 pm
Contact:

57 is a God among us..when he speaks we shall listen lol..
User avatar
jasons2k
Posts: 5406
Joined: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Imperial Oaks
Contact:

redneckweather wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:01 am Ike was in 2008 but yes, this system needs to be very closely monitored. Hmmmm
Yes I will fix that!
User avatar
tireman4
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 4500
Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:24 pm
Location: Humble, Texas
Contact:

jasons2k wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:00 am
tireman4 wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:31 am Maybe this just me, but it was a little odd that HGX did not give the AFD in the 12 noon hour. They waited until 3:45 to give it. ( They normally will give a 12 and a 3 ish. Just odd.
I saw that. I also don’t understand this new thing of saying what was updated in the header, then they copy/paste the entire discussion and you have scroll and hunt for the relevant changes.

It was so much simpler when the updates were that and only that - just the update. This new process is whack.

Maybe they are tired of complete write ups? Tired fingers? LOL
cperk
Posts: 770
Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:09 pm
Location: Richmond
Contact:

Cpv17 wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:02 am Well 57 doesn’t really seem the least bit worried about it. He’s basically saying this is just a phantom storm the models are showing. Me personally, I don’t agree with that but I’m just an amateur.
When i visit storm2k i don't bother to read any of his post.
User avatar
tireman4
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 4500
Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:24 pm
Location: Humble, Texas
Contact:

In regard to WxMan 57, who many of us know personally (me included, as he picks on my FB posts), he does know his stuff. He has forgotten more than I will ever know about Meteorology (especially Tropical). Back in the day, he nailed the Ike landing in Galveston. Does he miss things? Yes. Has he gotten forecasts wrong? Absolutely. Do I trust his forecasts? Yes, without a doubt. This is just my opinion. YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary)
cperk
Posts: 770
Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:09 pm
Location: Richmond
Contact:

tireman4 wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:28 am In regard to WxMan 57, who many of us know personally (me included, as he picks on my FB posts), he does know his stuff. He has forgotten more than I will ever know about Meteorology (especially Tropical). Back in the day, he nailed the Ike landing in Galveston. Does he miss things? Yes. Has he gotten forecasts wrong? Absolutely. Do I trust his forecasts? Yes, without a doubt. This is just my opinion. YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary)
No one is questioning his knowledge,but his i'm right and you're wrong attitude sucks given the fact that sometimes he blows a forecast.
biggerbyte
Posts: 1142
Joined: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:15 am
Location: Porter, Texas. (Montgomery County)
Contact:

Folks, picking on wxman is a bit unfair considering most meteorologist follow model guidance. That is what he does. That is what he is paid to do. Throwing out weather God titles is a bit of a stretch. When it comes to tropical mischief it is important to live in the day and not rely on long term forecasting from anyone. Certainly not more than a couple or three days. Can we get back to the moment without bashing folks over their "skills"?
cperk
Posts: 770
Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:09 pm
Location: Richmond
Contact:

biggerbyte wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:00 pm Folks, picking on wxman is a bit unfair considering most meteorologist follow model guidance. That is what he does. That is what he is paid to do. Throwing out weather God titles is a bit of a stretch. When it comes to tropical mischief it is important to live in the day and not rely on long term forecasting from anyone. Certainly not more than a couple or three days. Can we get back to the moment without bashing folks over their "skills"?
Please bother to read my post i started by saying no one is questioning his knowledge.
User avatar
tireman4
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 4500
Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:24 pm
Location: Humble, Texas
Contact:

cperk wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:35 am
tireman4 wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:28 am In regard to WxMan 57, who many of us know personally (me included, as he picks on my FB posts), he does know his stuff. He has forgotten more than I will ever know about Meteorology (especially Tropical). Back in the day, he nailed the Ike landing in Galveston. Does he miss things? Yes. Has he gotten forecasts wrong? Absolutely. Do I trust his forecasts? Yes, without a doubt. This is just my opinion. YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary)
No one is questioning his knowledge,but his i'm right and you're wrong attitude sucks given the fact that sometimes he blows a forecast.
I will say this, if you know him personally, he is a lot of "tongue in cheek" with his personality. He has a sharp wit and zany sense of humor. Believe me, I have gotten it over the years. LOL. I think that how he might come across on S2K.
Cromagnum
Posts: 2634
Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:42 pm
Contact:

Rockport getting drenched.
Stratton20
Posts: 4251
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:35 pm
Location: College Station, Texas
Contact:

12z GFS still has a borderline hurricane in the western gulf but gets shoced into mexico, still 10.5 days out, but the model has shown the western gulf looks like the potential target area for this disturbance
cperk
Posts: 770
Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:09 pm
Location: Richmond
Contact:

Stratton20 wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:17 pm 12z GFS still has a borderline hurricane in the western gulf but gets shoced into mexico, still 10.5 days out, but the model has shown the western gulf looks like the potential target area for this disturbance
Yeah the GFS has been windshield wiping but has stayed with the GOM as the area of landfall.
User avatar
jasons2k
Posts: 5406
Joined: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Imperial Oaks
Contact:

Cpv17 wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:02 am Well 57 doesn’t really seem the least bit worried about it. He’s basically saying this is just a phantom storm the models are showing. Me personally, I don’t agree with that but I’m just an amateur.
That’s not at all how I interpreted his posts this morning. Yes he said the GFS run is crap but his comment was in reference to the model not the potential for a late developing storm.

You have to read all of his comments to paint the picture sometimes.

He also jacks with people too so take some of what he says with a grain of salt.

He is planning to be working Labor Day weekend ;)
Cpv17
Posts: 5312
Joined: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:58 pm
Location: El Campo/Wharton
Contact:

jasons2k wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:38 pm
Cpv17 wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:02 am Well 57 doesn’t really seem the least bit worried about it. He’s basically saying this is just a phantom storm the models are showing. Me personally, I don’t agree with that but I’m just an amateur.
That’s not at all how I interpreted his posts this morning. Yes he said the GFS run is crap but his comment was in reference to the model not the potential for a late developing storm.

You have to read all of his comments to paint the picture sometimes.

He also jacks with people too so take some of what he says with a grain of salt.

He is planning to be working Labor Day weekend ;)
He said the ensemble members that send this further north aren’t from this storm. He said they’re from another piece of energy the GFS has which he doesn’t believe will be there. The way I took it, it seems like the ensembles that send this further south are from this area of interest and the ones that send it closer to us are from some phantom piece of energy. I wasn’t trying to start anything. I was just trying to interpret what I perceived and bring it on here.
User avatar
jasons2k
Posts: 5406
Joined: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:54 pm
Location: Imperial Oaks
Contact:

I don’t think he believes this plows into Nicaragua based on his previous comments, so the 2nd vorticity depicted on the GFS is a non-issue. Yes, a phantom, but the problem with the GFS is before we even get that far in the run….it’s junk.
Post Reply
  • Information
  • Who is online

    Users browsing this forum: Ahrefs [Bot], Amazon [Bot] and 11 guests