December 2022

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S2K is about to get busy, someone named "ThunderSleetDreams" said it has been "Several Years since we've had double digit pages in the 1st Week of December".
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Iceresistance wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:39 pm S2K is about to get busy, someone named "ThunderSleetDreams" said it has been "Several Years since we've had double digit pages in the 1st Week of December".
I am TSD. Only reason I don't have the same posting handle that I have here is due to the fact I only post on the Winter forum.

I know I don't post a ton here outside of Winter, but I still frequent here a lot outside of the Winter season if a wet pattern or storm is headed our way.
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MontgomeryCoWx wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:47 pm
Iceresistance wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:39 pm S2K is about to get busy, someone named "ThunderSleetDreams" said it has been "Several Years since we've had double digit pages in the 1st Week of December".
I am TSD. Only reason I don't have the same posting handle that I have here is due to the fact I only post on the Winter forum.

I know I don't post a ton here outside of Winter, but I still frequent here a lot outside of the Winter season if a wet pattern or storm is headed our way.
Oh hi there! I did not expect you to be TSD!
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Ha.

Name comes from my first intense Winter experience in 1989. Got to see a Thunderstorm turn into Thunder Sleet turn into Thunder Snow in the span of a hour.
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What a depressing weather pattern right now I should not be running my AC and sweating when I go outside.
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Cromagnum wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:44 pm What a depressing weather pattern right now I should not be running my AC and sweating when I go outside.
It will be gone soon.
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I know the pattern change is coming, but the GFS is well on its way to winning the worst model of the year award, euro and CMC are in remarkable agreement but here we have the GFS which is still out to lunch, its crazy that its still not seeing this pattern flip
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The CPC forecast is still quite blah. Looks like they’re weighing the GFS more than anything else.
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MontgomeryCoWx wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:47 pm
Cromagnum wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:44 pm What a depressing weather pattern right now I should not be running my AC and sweating when I go outside.
It will be gone soon.
It can’t come soon enough. ABC13 had been showing seasonal temps for Dec. 12 and low and behold, it now delays that another yet another day until the 13th. I’m tired of the humidity and the cockroaches.
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What kind of madness has the 18z GFS produced?
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Iceresistance wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:44 pm What kind of madness has the 18z GFS produced?
It’s 500mb make zero sense. Like I said, watching the GFS right now (and making sense of it) is an exercise in futility.
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Frankly, the new upgraded GFS is useless. Stick to the Euro and Canadian and their ensembles for any sense of likely reality for a sensible forecast.
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srainhoutx wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:32 pm Frankly, the new upgraded GFS is useless. Stick to the Euro and Canadian and their ensembles for any sense of likely reality for a sensible forecast.

And there ya go….

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The one time a model gets an upgrade and its performing even worse now lol, lock those CMC and euro runs in, its coming🥶🥶🥶
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Just got through looking at the 12z EPS. Dang it looks pretty good. Has ridging from Alaska all the way to Greenland.
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I’m hopeful the cold air is coming. Do the models show anything remotely like December 1983 or 1989?
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The 8-14 day NWS forecasts are cooler than the 6-10s, leaning below normal.
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sambucol wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:54 pm I’m hopeful the cold air is coming. Do the models show anything remotely like December 1983 or 1989?
I’m not focused on the surface output, yet…. Still too far out, but the recipe is there for major cold if you believe the 500mb patter the Euro and Canadian keep spitting out.

This is likely to be a 3 wave event if those two models just get into the ballpark of what they are showing now.

First wave, next week, second wave right before Christmas and 3rd and final wave between Christmas and NYE. There looks to be an active storm track that will help pull down the cold.

850s look great right now, but again, it’s early.
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I’ve read discussions about the possibility of a December 1983 comparison as the year ends into 2023. If so, we have some winterizing to get done for our home.
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sambucol wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:08 pm I’ve read discussions about the possibility of a December 1983 comparison as the year ends into 2023. If so, we have some winterizing to get done for our home.
December 1983 had 105 hours of freezing temperature. December 1989 had 56 hours of freezing temperature.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160630140 ... ezhour.htm

The February 2021 had 44 hours of freezing temperature.
https://www.weather.gov/hgx/2021ValentineStorm

The February 1895 and February 1899 freeze are in a class of its own. Same goes with January 1930 and February 1933.
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