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Cpv17 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:37 pm Wider views of the NMME and CanSIPS:

As you can see, not really much of a difference between the two models. Pretty good agreement.

mcheer23 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:07 am FWIW

"We expect that the Gulf Coast, especially the Texas Coast, will be at a higher risk for direct impacts from a tropical system this year."
Paul Pastelok, AccuWeather Long-Range Expert

sambucol wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:53 amI hope that doesn’t happpen. I’m extremely concerned about us getting hit this year in the Galveston area.

After the dryness experienced the past two summers, I want a shakeup. And if that means getting all these tropical cyclones, then let's bring it.

But seriously: I'd like to see the wetter solutions verify so that we can see a clearer idea of what goes on to dictate hotter/drier versus cooler/wetter regarding the summer weather. Are these predictions simply just drawing from general Nina baselines, or is there another factor or other at play? Does the "staying power" of the ridge stem from any localized/topographic influences of the Texas/Mexico region, or is it more related to remote forcing from ENSO/other teleconnections (and any possible relationship with East Pacific ITCZ in case that plays a role)?

user:null wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:03 pm

Cpv17 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:37 pm Wider views of the NMME and CanSIPS:

As you can see, not really much of a difference between the two models. Pretty good agreement.

mcheer23 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:07 am FWIW

"We expect that the Gulf Coast, especially the Texas Coast, will be at a higher risk for direct impacts from a tropical system this year."
Paul Pastelok, AccuWeather Long-Range Expert

sambucol wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:53 amI hope that doesn’t happpen. I’m extremely concerned about us getting hit this year in the Galveston area.

After the dryness experienced the past two summers, I want a shakeup. And if that means getting all these tropical cyclones, then let's bring it.

But seriously: I'd like to see the wetter solutions verify so that we can see a clearer idea of what goes on to dictate hotter/drier versus cooler/wetter regarding the summer weather. Are these predictions simply just drawing from general Nina baselines, or is there another factor or other at play? Does the "staying power" of the ridge stem from any localized/topographic influences of the Texas/Mexico region, or is it more related to remote forcing from ENSO/other teleconnections (and any possible relationship with East Pacific ITCZ in case that plays a role)?

-PDO sucks.

Cpv17 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:12 pm-PDO sucks.

Yes, that is a factor that I've seen referenced a lot on s2k regarding the favor of summer heat and drought in Texas. I'm genuinely trying to figure out if the persistence of ridging/drought in the Texas area is due more to remote forcing from teleconnections like the PDO, or if there were local influences at play.

In order to confirm, I'll have to find the previous times that we've had a +PDO, so as to see the outcomes. I'm aware that AMO is also another factor, but that has long since been positive a while now.

Many of the forecast I have seen have an active 2024 season.

Same here. I’m dreading hurricane season this year.

One thing to take away from this, notice over the last 30 years, we are experiencing the warmest SST anomalies since '97/98 and '15. Takeaway? Those were El Niño years.


The summer of 1997 was a below average hurricane season, with only 8 named storms, 3 of which became hurricanes, one of those major with only one of the eight storms hitting the U.S. mainland. Summer of 2015 was also a slightly below average season, 11 total storms, 4 hurricanes, 2 of those being majors. Only two hit the U.S. mainland, one of those being along the central TX coast (tropical storm Bill).

However, on the contrary, with us being in El Niño last summer, the Atlantic had an above average season with 20 named storms (which ranks fourth for the most-named storms in a year since 1950!) The 1997-98 El Niño was followed by a strong La Niña (which you can depict in the picture above with the blue/purple colors in the Pacific region), which correlated to what became an above average hurricane season, with several storms hitting the mainland. A mild La Niña followed the 2015-16 El Niño, which also ended up being an above average season, with several of those storms hitting parts of the mainland (mainly the southeastern part of the country) and also in Central America.

The point in all of this: no El Niños or La Niñas are the same (hence the busy season we had last summer, despite being in an El Niño). However, with odds increasing we'll transition into a La Niña this summer, and coming off some of the warmer SSTs from the years I've mentioned above, history could repeat itself with an above average season, possibly hyperactive. As always though, all it takes is one to hit you for it to be a bad season. I'll be closely monitoring how quickly the SSTs out in the Pacific cool in the months ahead.

https://twitter.com/philklotzbach/statu ... 0642818296

This pretty much matches my thinking too.

I’m tired of seeing so many people say “oh they say it’s gonna be busy every year”. That narrative is lazy garbage and people need to educate themselves before they comment on something. Drives me crazy!

Cpv17 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:03 pm I’m tired of seeing so many people say “oh they say it’s gonna be busy every year”. That narrative is lazy garbage and people need to educate themselves before they comment on something. Drives me crazy!

Absolutely hate it.

Driving me crazy seeing all those ignorant comments on facebook from the general public claiming its all hype for a busy season, it truly is tiring trying to speak logic to the ignorant, guess most folks cant handle facts and logics behind these forecasts being put out, buckle up folks, could be a bumpy ride this season

Cpv17 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:03 pm I’m tired of seeing so many people say “oh they say it’s gonna be busy every year”. That narrative is lazy garbage and people need to educate themselves before they comment on something. Drives me crazy!

I agree!

Stratton20 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 5:25 pm Driving me crazy seeing all those ignorant comments on facebook from the general public claiming its all hype for a busy season, it truly is tiring trying to speak logic to the ignorant, guess most folks cant handle facts and logics behind these forecasts being put out, buckle up folks, could be a bumpy ride this season

Wayyyyyy too many people absolutely suck these days. Ask anyone else who deals with the general public on a daily basis. I get to see them at their worst (many of them). The amount of verbal abuse we encounter has got me rethinking my career after nearly 20 years.

Colorado State University April 2024 Forecast
https://tropical.colostate.edu/Forecast/2024-04.pdf

They are predicting a busy season. Some of the analog years are 1878, 2010, and 2020.

Cpv17 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:03 pm I’m tired of seeing so many people say “oh they say it’s gonna be busy every year”. That narrative is lazy garbage and people need to educate themselves before they comment on something. Drives me crazy!

Cpv17 this kind of response aggravates me too these researchers spend all that time putting these reports together to simply inform and give you a heads up on what might occur these people are the ones that scare the local officials in charge of informing people of the danger of these storms and trying to get them out of harms way.

Accuweathers analogs for this year shows the upper Texas coast as a hotspot FWIW.

Hurricane Discussion 2024

tireman4 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:51 pm Hurricane Discussion 2024

When Matt Lanza (who I respect immensely) buys into the hype, just about everyone else should, too.

Pas_Bon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:29 pm

tireman4 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:51 pm Hurricane Discussion 2024

When Matt Lanza (who I respect immensely) buys into the hype, just about everyone else should, too.

Isn’t he usually conservative?

Cpv17 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:11 pm

Pas_Bon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:29 pm

tireman4 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:51 pm Hurricane Discussion 2024

When Matt Lanza (who I respect immensely) buys into the hype, just about everyone else should, too.

Isn’t he usually conservative?

He definitely errs on the conservative edge of prognostications. He is about as "anti-hype" as anyone out there......he's usually the loudest in the "step away from the ledge" crowd.
I'm worried. Knowing Matt Lanza is actually worried has me more worried.