weatherfreak wrote:I teach at a junior high in Baytown and we have has 3 blackouts today already!! All the kids are in the hall and it's crazy!!! Has anyone heard of any school closings yet due to blackouts?
Mr. T wrote:A pro met on American Wx said the 12z Euro shows 3 in. of snow for Houston
12z euro shows .3in of moisture but the surface levels aren't always frozen. Since the rest of the column will be frozen it shouldn't be much of a problem but keep it in mind
Those surface temps do not reflect evaporative cooling effects. If the model has dews in the 20s, that's all I need to know.
So when do you guys think the NWS is gonna jump ship and issue a colder forecast with more precipitation. So far they are still holding out with mid 30's thursday and friday and less accumulation than the models are showing and trending towards.
weatherfreak wrote:I teach at a junior high in Baytown and we have has 3 blackouts today already!! All the kids are in the hall and it's crazy!!! Has anyone heard of any school closings yet due to blackouts?
The school district canceled after school tutorials and CIS scheduled tomorrow.
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clute28 wrote:Could that warm pocket of air b there one model run and b gone the next?
Note that the pocket of "warm" air that's showing up is just a pocket of 33-34 deg air in a thin layer between about 5000-9000 feet up. It's not a pocket of air in the 40s or 50s, as often happens over Houston in the winter. Just 1-2 degrees above freezing, which is well within the potential model error. All models do currently indicate at least some snow as the precip ends Friday morning, even down to the coast.
weatherfreak wrote:I teach at a junior high in Baytown and we have has 3 blackouts today already!! All the kids are in the hall and it's crazy!!! Has anyone heard of any school closings yet due to blackouts?
I haven't heard of any school "closings;" Spring ISD is letting out 3 hours earlier today - not sure if more will follow suit.
Just not to get TOO excited, I may want to take the position of my mother and few other people - I will believe when I see it. She still isn't convinced. She IS worried about getting down to the medical center tomorrow to have stitches taken out of my dad's ear. If I'm not mistaken, she should be okay - and make it home before it starts.
Just a quick ? I currently don't have any snow in my forcast just freezin rain and sleet...but like 7 milles up the road they have snow...I was just curious as how that could be with justt a 7 mile difference
Candy Cane wrote:I suspect nobody will have school on Friday. Probably early release on Thursday as the event may start taking shape around noon.
I expect school closings announced tonight after the school districts take a look and see what is coming. A WSW around here is MORE than enough to close school, so i expect the trigger to be pulled on Friday classes.
randybpt wrote:So what im hearing is that beaumont will get all ice and Sleet man I need to make preparation if so I have a sister on chemo can't be without light should I prepare the motorhome seriously
Randy, you've lived around SE TX long enough to know we need to be prepared for any eventuality. I'd prepare my RV in your situation, if I were you. These rolling blackouts may only increase in the days and hours ahead.
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clute28 wrote:Just a quick ? I currently don't have any snow in my forcast just freezin rain and sleet...but like 7 milles up the road they have snow...I was just curious as how that could be with justt a 7 mile difference
Do not take that information as fact. You very well may be blanketed with snow if a heavy band sets up after the column of air cools. At this point, nothing is certain except for the area will see Snow, Ice, and Freezing Rain. The amounts and diving line/changeover time are unknown until tomorrow at this time.
I wanted to answer a question I just got by PM. I think it'll benefit the newbies and folks looking for information.
First off, this is not a hurricane. You do not need to prepare as if we are about to be hit. In a hurricane, you worry about your windows blowing in and your roof flying off. Then you're stuck without power for 3 weeks while your food rots in the refrigerator. The precautions that need to be taken are as follows:
-make sure you have an up-to-date insurance card in your car. It may sound funny, but the potential is there for thousands of accidents tomorrow and Friday.
-fill your gas cans for generator use. There is a distinct possibility of losing power thanks to ice before it begins to snow.
-As far as the meat and food in your refrigerator...if we lose power, just put it on your back porch or near the front door. The temps outside will keep it fresh. (Just watch for the neighborhood strays)
-Keep a blanket and flashlight in your car. If you get stuck on the freeways on your way home from work, you want to make sure you have those two things....and flares. If it snows heavy, and it looks like it will on Thursday night into Friday, you want to be seen.
-Wrap your pipes, leave faucets dripping and leave cabinet doors open. Running water is harder to freeze than still water.
These tips should get you through our impending winter storm.
Anyone seen the updated Winter precip graphic on the Hou-Gal NWS homepage? 1-2" snow and sleet all the way to the immediate coast with 1-3" across Houston metro?
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CORPUS CHRISTI TX
1201 PM CST WED FEB 2 2011
TXZ230>234-240>247-030200-
/O.NEW.KCRP.WS.A.0001.110203T1800Z-110204T1800Z/
MCMULLEN-LIVE OAK-BEE-GOLIAD-VICTORIA-DUVAL-JIM WELLS-KLEBERG-
NUECES-SAN PATRICIO-ARANSAS-REFUGIO-CALHOUN-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...CALLIHAM...CROSS...LOMA ALTA...TILDEN...
GEORGE WEST...THREE RIVERS...BEEVILLE...GOLIAD...VICTORIA...
FREER...BENAVIDES...SAN DIEGO...ALICE...ORANGE GROVE...
KINGSVILLE...CORPUS CHRISTI...PORTLAND...INGLESIDE...
ARANSAS PASS...SINTON...MATHIS...ROCKPORT...REFUGIO...WOODSBORO...
PORT LAVACA
1201 PM CST WED FEB 2 2011
...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH
FRIDAY MORNING...
...DANGEROUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS EXPECTED ACROSS SOUTH TEXAS...
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN CORPUS CHRISTI HAS ISSUED A
WINTER STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM THURSDAY AFTERNOON
THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING.
A POTENT UPPER LEVEL STORM SYSTEM WILL MOVE ACROSS TEXAS THURSDAY
AND FRIDAY...PRODUCING A MIX OF WINTRY PRECIPITATION IN THE FORM
OF FREEZING RAIN...SLEET AND SNOW.
FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET WILL BEGIN ALONG THE COAST AROUND NOON ON
THURSDAY. THE FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET WILL SPREAD NORTHWARD ACROSS
THE COASTAL BEND DURING THE AFTERNOON...AND WEST INTO THE BRUSH
COUNTRY BY 6 PM. FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET WILL CONTINUE ACROSS MUCH
OF SOUTH TEXAS THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING...MAKING TRAVEL
EXTREMELY HAZARDOUS. THERE IS ALSO THE POTENTIAL NORTH AND WEST OF
HIGHWAY 77 THAT THE FREEZING RAIN WILL CHANCE OVER TO SNOW AND
SLEET THURSDAY NIGHT.
SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATIONS OF ICE AND SLEET ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE
COASTAL COUNTIES...GENERALLY ALONG AND EAST OF HIGHWAY 77. BETWEEN
1/4 AND 1/2 OF AN INCH OF ICE AND SLEET ACCUMULATION WILL BE
POSSIBLE ACROSS THIS AREA. FURTHER INLAND...WEST OF HIGHWAY 77...
SLEET AND SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF 1 TO 3 INCHES ARE LIKELY.
RESIDENTS OF SOUTH TEXAS SHOULD PREPARE FOR DANGEROUS TRAVEL
CONDITIONS THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING.
A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THAT CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR
HAZARDOUS WINTER WEATHER TO DEVELOP WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 48
HOURS. THERE IS STILL SOME UNCERTAINTY THAT EXISTS WITH THIS
UPCOMING EVENT. RESIDENTS ACROSS SOUTH TEXAS SHOULD CLOSELY
MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS AND BE PREPARED TO ACT QUICKLY IF A
WARNING IS ISSUED.
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URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BROWNSVILLE TX
1249 PM CST WED FEB 2 2011
...WINTRY PRECIPITATION FOR PORTIONS OF DEEP SOUTH TEXAS THURSDAY
THROUGH EARLY FRIDAY...
.AN ARCTIC AIR MASS WILL CONTINUE TO SPREAD OVER DEEP SOUTH TEXAS
TODAY. BELOW FREEZING TEMPERATURES WILL COMBINE WITH NORTH WINDS
TO DRIVE WIND CHILL VALUES DOWN INTO THE TEENS WEDNESDAY EVENING
INTO THURSDAY. THE COLD WEATHER WILL PERSIST THURSDAY...WITH THE
POSSIBILITY OF A RANGE OF WINTRY PRECIPITATION FROM LIGHT SNOW
SHOWERS INLAND TO FREEZING RAIN NEAR THE COAST THURSDAY THROUGH
EARLY FRIDAY.
TXZ250-251-253>257-031000-
/O.NEW.KBRO.WS.A.0001.110203T1800Z-110204T1500Z/
/O.CON.KBRO.WC.W.0002.110203T0000Z-110203T2100Z/
BROOKS-KENEDY-HIDALGO-INLAND WILLACY-INLAND CAMERON-
COASTAL WILLACY-COASTAL CAMERON-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...FALFURRIAS...SARITA...MCALLEN...
EDINBURG...PHARR...MISSION...WESLACO...RAYMONDVILLE...
BROWNSVILLE...HARLINGEN...PORT MANSFIELD...PORT ISABEL...
SOUTH PADRE ISLAND...LAGUNA HEIGHTS...LAGUNA VISTA
1249 PM CST WED FEB 2 2011
...WIND CHILL WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 6 PM THIS EVENING TO
3 PM CST THURSDAY...
...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH
FRIDAY MORNING...
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BROWNSVILLE HAS ISSUED A WINTER
STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH
FRIDAY MORNING. A WIND CHILL WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 6 PM
THIS EVENING TO 3 PM CST THURSDAY.
VERY COLD WEATHER WILL CONTINUE WEDNESDAY EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY
AS AN ARCTIC AIR MASS RETAINS ITS ICY GRIP ON DEEP SOUTH TEXAS.
WIND CHILL VALUES WILL DECREASE INTO THE TEENS IN EASTERN SECTIONS
AND TO SINGLE DIGITS INLAND AND NORTH.
A MID LEVEL STORM SYSTEM WILL MOVE INTO TEXAS FROM THE WEST
THURSDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHT. UPWARD MOTION COMBINED WITH VERY COLD
LOW LEVEL TEMPERATURES WILL PRODUCE THE POTENTIAL FOR A MIX OF
WINTRY PRECIPITATION IN THE FORM OF FREEZING RAIN...SLEET AND
SNOW.
FREEZING RAIN WILL BE POSSIBLE ALONG THE COAST BEGINNING AROUND
NOON ON THURSDAY...WITH SLEET POSSIBLE IN THE COASTAL COUNTIES AND
LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS POSSIBLE FOR THE MID VALLEY INCLUDING BROOKS
AND HIDALGO COUNTIES. CHANCES FOR WINTRY PRECIPITATION WILL
INCREASE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING. ACCUMULATION OF
PRECIPITATION MAY BE UP TO A QUARTER OF AN INCH THROUGH ABOUT NOON
ON FRIDAY...WITH ICE ACCUMULATION OF THE SAME AMOUNT POSSIBLE NEAR
THE COAST WHERE FREEZING RAIN WILL BE MORE LIKELY.
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